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Before getting to Governor Pilate, along with King Herod, and clearing up the guile found within that episode in the life of Jesus, let us look at what science demands of me, and demands of all others who wish to live a life of productivity for their soul.  

Science demands that all observations are found accountable by whatever theory is hopefully being verified. If the observations do not match the theory, then a new theory must be proposed. The theory discussed in this website is called: The theory of the mystery of God. That is a rather nebulous title that seems to include everything under the sun, and beyond it. In fact the theory discussed here does just that.

As discussed by the reborn apostle Paul in his many works: religion is actually a division of the total mystery of God, where Science, and Art make up two other divisions of the total mystery. In order to prove the religion aspect of the mystery of God, which is the primary activity done in my website, I must bring in the science aspect, and hopefully somewhere along the line I will bring in art too so the entire mystery of God is begun to be explained.

The religion aspect that we are looking at in this theory has shown so far that the common people were not against Jesus, instead the priests, and those related to the priesthood were against him. Science demands that I do not merely banter on about observations, but that I line them up with prophecy that Jesus said would take place. Of course I must line up my other many observations with other prophecies made elsewhere by the OT prophets, and made by prophecy found in the Qur’an if I am to be scientific. That has been done, and will continue to be done as one reads this website.

Here proves the observation just made above is correct on the common people having nothing to do with the rejection of Jesus: Mathew 16:21 " From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day."

Be careful on the idea above of killed.  That is as will be explained later on part of a logical construct called a:  negative syllogism.

How the syllogism is solved is rather easy, but it won't be done in this link.  Why not solve it your self, and later see if you did it correctly.  The syllogism starts at 16:20 and ends with a big hint at 16:24.  I recommend you search through the NT with a computer, as that will speed things up.  

 The important idea to realize for now is that the common people did not reject Jesus. That idea is what we are learning in this site.  In the sentence of 6:21 it says that the Elders, Chief Priest, and scribes, all of whom are not the common people will cause some suffering for Jesus, but as we know that was only one day: Big deal.  We can verify a few other details in the sentence of 16:21, so that we are sure other items there happened, but of course one of those items did not happen. Well of course I already told you many times before, what it is,  but I have not yet proved how it is done.  Anyway, for the purpose here, just to prove how miserable my life is at times, and that I am the one rejected very much, that is why I have made the point here. That was done so  I could align myself up with prophecy of the coming of the son of man.    

Since we have already seen how convoluted, and full of guile the NT is written, we hopefully by now are prepared to see even more of this deep deceit all of the time. However, by thinking logically the guile will be straightened out, and then the guile will only be found to be a trap to catch an evil generation.

Almost everyone not reading this site still thinks Jesus was rejected by His generation, but for those reading this website they found that careful observations prove that was not true.  I have said, and will constantly say again through out this website that almost the opposite has been done to me, where the common people, including the priesthood, and everyone else reject me.  Yes, I have said that idea before.  It is theraputic to talk about our problems; its not good to bottle them up. 

 I am certain even our Ross family parakeet rejects me, and yet I am the one who feeds, and gives him fresh water everyday.   He has never bothered to learn one word from me in about ten years, but from my wife he has learned to say about thirty or more words.  In only three days of my wife briefly talking to the bird new words will be learned.  So clearly my generation rejects me. That then fulfills what Jesus said will happen to the son of man, the one who is like in the days of Noah.

 Since analogies help serve to explain similar events, or processes, then we might guess that the animals lead on to the ark was done by Noah's wife.  She also got them to do stunts, and quiet down if it was time for rest. Noah would feed, and water the animals, and also clean out the stalls.

I probably should not have entered the fact about the parakeet. If I am arrested again for simply exercising my rights under the US Constitution then a psychiatrist will say that I am delusional, as well as paranoid due to saying that a parakeet won't learn anything from me. Anyway, I think I learned my lesson on how far I have rights.  I will only use the internet to preach.      

Here is the prophecy I will continue to prove, and have already proven true so far, but first, so this is idea is made very clear,  we will see again that the common people did not reject Jesus, but they are considered wicked nonetheless : Luke 11:29-30 " And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, "This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet. For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation"

That particular time above mentioned in the scriptures the son of man was Jesus. However, a generation will beget another generation as wicked as its self unless a great change takes place.

Now let us look at what happens to the son of man, who is myself, the reborn apostle Peter when he comes, which is today. First we will read some more events on prophecy before coming to the verse about me: Luke 17:20-26 Now when He (Jesus) was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation nor will they say, `See here!' or `See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you. (That idea of the kingdom of God is WITHIN was not explained in detail back when Jesus walked the earth, but it is explained today when the next son of man is on earth. Details later on in this site. ) Then He said to the disciples, "The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. (That means they will be reborn again, but they will die before they see that day. However, a day will come when the reborn apostle Paul, and all the other apostles are reborn again, and that day will have come to pass.) And they will say to you, `Look here!' or `Look there!' Do not go after them or follow them. (So don’t even bother to find Jesus for he will not be there. But the one called Peter, who the church is to be built upon he can be found, and soon Jesus will explain how to find him.  The other apostles will be reborn after this time told next, where Jesus tells how to find Peter.) For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. (That is the internet flashing it message, which shows the marvels of science. ) But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man"

Therefore only the scribes, and priests rejected Jesus, but today everyone rejects the son of man, who is my self. I am one of the Holy Ones of Israel.

Now here begins the part on the guile concerning King Herod, and Pilate, and the trial of Jesus.

 
We already saw how if the cultural background of the Jews, like the Passover,  is added to the scripture then an entirely different vantage point is given the reader.  If we add only a few more facts to another area in scripture, then once again what seems one way, turns out to be another.  Right now, in this example, a background on Roman laws, including how the Caesar, and governors ruled the people will be included, so that what appears on the surface of the gospels to show Pilate was a weakling, and wished to save Jesus, but was bullied by the crowds, instead turns out that Pilate was well aware of the desires of the Herodian royalty, that they wished to remain as Kings.  If we also look into another aspect of human nature, for Pilate was a family man, we will find a further motive for Pilate treating Jesus with more respect than normal.  What the exact motive was will not be told immediately, but it will be explained eventually not long from now.    
 
The ancient history of Rome, proven by sources other than the Bible, shows that what the Jews said concerning their King is a lie:  John 19:15 "But they (The Jews) cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate said to them, Should  I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar."   
 
Reliable sources on history prove that the Jews would not allow the standards of Rome, (the banners, and flags) nor the likeness of the Emperor to be seen anywhere in Jerusalem. The Jews did not even like to see the Emperor’s face on coins used in commerce.  There was a time when Rome actually minted coins in Palestine without the Emperor’s face, just to please the Jews. 
 
Yet curiously, historic sources say that the Jews did allow their own emblems, and symbols to be used.  Here is a quote from another ancient reference : "Nay, he (Herod) placed over the great gate of Temple at Jerusalem a massive golden eagle, the symbol of Roman dominion, as a sort of counterpart to that gigantic golden vine, the symbol of Israel, which hung above the entrance to the Holy Place. These measures, indeed, led to popular indignation, and even to conspiracies and tumults, [b Ant. xv. 8. 1-4; xvii. 6. 2] though not of the same general and intense character, as when, at a later period, Pilate sought to introduce into Jerusalem images of the Emperor, or when the statue of Caligula was to be placed in the Temple." 
 
Clearly, the Jews did not even consider the King who they said was their King, to be King.  If you honor a king, "We have no King but Caesar" you don't riot if his face is seen, like did the Jews. We may also conclude that since symbols, or emblems were used by the Jews for their own traditions, like the Romans used for their own, then if the Jews  honored Caesar like they would a King of Israel, we can be sure banners, and mint would show the royal seal, and face of their Roman King too.  In reality, the Jews wanted a King, but only if he were a Jewish King.  Jesus said the Jewish Priesthood were hypocrites, and they aren’t ones to point out he was wrong. 

 Emperor Nero allowed foreign Kings to rule over their own people, as long as that King was subservient to Rome.  Allowing foreign conquered people to be governed by their own King, who in return paid tribute to Rome, but were allowed to follow their own laws, as long as they did not contravene Roman law, then it made for an empire where peace could be more easily maintained.   This is called the Pax Romana: The Roman Peace.   Emperor Trajan also did the same, and it was the custom for all Roman Caesars to do the same.  It only makes sense.
 
  In the gospels Jesus said:  Matthew 22: 21 "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to God that which is God's."  So we know Jesus was not trying to usurp the Emperor.  Pilate said, John 18:39, that "Jesus was the King of the Jews," which could be seen as an offering by Pilate for Israel to have their own King over them rather than Pilate, or the Herodian line of rulers.  But Pilate was talking to the Jewish priesthood, not the everyday Jews.  The details of history, not covered here, proves that although King Herod, and the Jewish priesthood were at odds at time with one another, that still they considered that kind of relationship was better than if Jesus were to become King.  
 
One example where Herod, and the Jewish priests differed is that Herod brought in Greek ideas.  That greatly infuriated the priests, but Jesus kept things Jewish, comparatively speaking.  As we saw earlier, Herod brought in a massive golden eagle that symbolized Rome, placing it where the Jews could see it.  So, it might seem like the priests would favor Jesus, but there were other reasons to oppose him.  After all, Jesus upheld the laws of Rome, where he told his followers to obey the laws of Caesar, so Caesar could easily make him King of the Jews. So, Jesus might even be too Roman, worse than Herod.  That was one potential problem, but here follows the real problems.  
 
Jesus knew the Torah, the Midrash, Haggadah, Hallakah, and also the Mishnah, and Gemara before either of those two were considered cool, and he was an expert in any other Jewish customs past, and present, or of those yet to come in the future.  Jesus was an expert already right then and there on future items,  better than any Jewish priest who only knew the past, and present.  So for some priests that would lead to their being envious, or jealous, but so what!  That happens all the time no matter what nation, where ever one goes.
 
 The real problem was that Jesus not only obeyed the laws of Rome perfectly whereas the current Priesthood of Israel were many times at odds, and rebellious with Rome, but Jesus was feared that he would transform Judaism, and then the priesthood might be eliminated too, or at least changed so that other families now became priests.  Other links in this site show that Jesus was an Essene. 
 
 The Essenes were a line of priests, who were from the original line of Judges, and Priests, who still ruled when Solomon was King.  They were then the God ordained priests, whereas the Pharisees, and Sadducees under Herod were the other priests put in place by previous Kings, Kings who came after Solomon, who wished to hear their own advice repeated by priests, or to hear what they did was favorable with God, even if the priests had to lie. Obviously, those were the Kings that did not wish what God wished. 
 
 If the Jewish Priesthood had wanted, they could have very easily made Jesus King over Israel.  Simply follow Roman laws:   Go to Rome, and ask the Emperor to grant Jesus title of King of Israel, who would be in obedience to the Emperor, and the laws of Rome, all the while Jesus also administered Jewish laws, so long as Roman law was not violated.  That is Roman law, and Pilate knew it could be done, but the Jewish priesthood would have nothing to do with it.  
 
Here follows, a few paragraphs after this one, a quote from the book "The Origin of Satan" authored by a woman: Professor Elaine Pagels.  Her book will be used to show that if we will think logically, and add a little background, that more guile will be uncovered in the scripture of the NT.  Uncovering more guile will include finding the foolish idea that many people believe that Peter was a misogynist.  People like Professor Pagels, and Professor Ehrman, who we will meet later, and others of high repute in public circles, visibly honored by the world of academia, use Gnostic texts to bash the person Jesus said he would build His church upon, making Peter appear to be a male chauvinist so, and so.  I won't mention the "P" word, as it is offensive to me, even though many woman consider me to be one. ( I am joking. Saying that we can not use the "P" word is to me like saying we can not use the "N" word.  Proverbs 16:18-19 "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.  Better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud." )
 
Many books by college professors argue that they are simply proving to be scholars who investigate other sources, but instead they are abusing people, particularly myself from ancient history, under a guise of scholarship.  Should we attack a person after their death, when they can not defend themselves?  Does that not make the attacker look ignoble to do so? What about using the canonical scriptures to attack Peter, or to defend him? 
 
 Of course maybe they are merely obeying the command of God to reject, and create suffering for the son of man like in the days of Noah.  In that case then we can commend their many scholarly books. 
 
Satan works through the world in many avenues. He currently has control of the church Jesus delegated to me to be head over, and Satan has control of the professors who pretend to want to understand the origins of the true message preached by Jesus. These professors pretend to be like news reporters who only desire to search for the truth, when in reality they have an agenda to uphold so they bias their reports to defend what is the agenda.  The agenda is to support Satan and his works.     
 
Since every news reporter reports some events that have truth, but a slanted version of it, that means that there is some real truth within. Therefore what I will do is show the truth, and the rest of her book can be understood for what it is when the reader understands the content of my website. 
 
Here now is a quote from Professor Pagels' book, (copy right 1995, 1st edition,  page 31) where she gives a background on Pilate, the same one who looks like a mouse in the gospels. 
 
  "Philo, an educated, influential member of the Jewish community in Alexandria, the capital of Egypt, was Pilate’s contemporary.  In one of his writings, his Embassy to Gaius, he describes his experiences as a member of an official delegation sent to Rome to represent the interests of the Alexandrian Jewish community to the Roman emperor, Gaius Caligula.  In the course of his narrative, Philo, referring to the situation of the Jewish community in Judea, describes governor Pilate as a man of "inflexible, stubborn, and cruel disposition," and lists as typical features of his administration "greed, violence, robbery, assault, abusive behavior, frequent executions without trial, and endless savage ferocity." "
 
The above character of Pilate should seem very odd, for in the gospels Pilate shuttles Jesus, Luke 23:7,  to another ruler, Herod, so that a fair trial may be heard, but finally unfortunate Pilate must decide for himself the outcome of Jesus.  Still he does not wish a hasty judgment,  all of which makes him seem the epitome of fairness, and impartial justice, where he asks the people not to kill Jesus, by offering them a known murderer, Luke 23:15-25, instead to be executed.  In the gospels Pilate appears ready to be canonized as a saint, but in reality Pilate is really showing his so called "cruel disposition," at least toward the rebellious, hypocritical Jews.   
 
 He already knows what will become of Jesus if the priests are allowed their wishes.  He knew that offering another to take the place of innocent Jesus will never be accepted by the priests.  Pilate is a master at the game of deceit, and can show how the priests who in one case call him "inflexible, and stubborn"  can be played to look the same.  Pilate proves he is a man of intelligence, who would rather gain the favor of the Emperor, than a bunch of rebels, who are jealous of a man called Jesus.  But, there was  more going on than that, which made Pilate appeal to the Priests to reconsider their desires. 
 
It can be deemed historically accurate that Pilate was as told by the Jews, that is, seen from their viewpoint, but what if Pilate had been governor closer to Rome, where the citizens loved the Emperor?   What if Pilate was governor of a province where the citizens wished for all the regalia of Roman royalty to be seen from every high place?  What if Pilate had citizens who loved the Roman legion marching in, seen with the banners of Rome held high, like we love to see in a parade in the USA, where the American flag is carried proudly by a color guard?   In that case, then the documentary on Pilate's disposition would most likely be the complete opposite.  Pilate would likely be considered the next best choice to be Caesar.  
 
 Even Jesus called the priesthood this:  Matthew 23:13-14 "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for you neither go in yourselves, neither do you allow them that are entering to go in.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore you shall receive the greater damnation."   The reader should continue on their own, reading Matthew 23:15-38, for it ends showing that under other Governors, not Pilate, that Jerusalem was totally destroyed. 
 
In Pagels' book she shows other instances where Pilate was not afraid to round up an entire assembly of Jews, and threaten to execute them.  He was not afraid to have his troops infiltrate a Jewish mob, and then kill some, so they fled in panic. Pilate would not be afraid of a crowd of Jews shouting "Crucify him."   He had enough troops to easily kill them all. Pilate had at his immediate use a brigade of Roman troops. That would include about one thousand horsemen. In all he could amass about four thousand others who were either well armed spearmen, expert archers, and regular sword bearing foot soldiers, that altogether would frighten any crowd that had come to say "Crucify him," so that instead of anger, and loud shouts, could only be heard a whimper, where Pilate would say, "I can't hear you."   
 
So why was he really afraid?   The answer:  His wife: Matthew 27:19 "When he (Pilate)  was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have nothing to do with that just man( Holy Man): for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him."  Pilate would kill a thousand Jews by crucifixion in one day, but he could not bear to ignore his wife for less than an hour.  The values of family were a strong motivation, which caused Pilate to be respectful toward Jesus.  About half of all marriages in the US last longer than seven years, which shows either some sort of respect, or fear, or maybe for the lucky ones: love.  So it seems that this idea here, on why Pilate appears to be a mouse, should have been figured out long before the 21st Century.  Like, is Andy Capp, Pilate and myself the only husbands who are afraid of their wife?
 
Continuing on in Professor Elaine Pagels' "The Origin of Satan"  she shows that Jesus was killed due to sedition, because Pilate said Jesus claimed to be King.  However the line of Herod was already established as the King of the Jews by the Roman Senate, and Caesar around 37 BC.  That Herod, also called Herod the Great, was the one who tried to kill Jesus when Jesus  was a baby. Later, Herod's son, Herod Antipas, ruled in his place, who was the one Pilate sent Jesus to be judged, but Antipas sent Jesus back to Pilate to be judged instead. 
 
Pilate, if he did not know earlier, knew after Herod sent Jesus back, that it was the secret desire of Herod to have Jesus murdered.  Pilate was intelligent, and he could see where all of this was leading.  Pilate had played similar games before if the end result benefited him.  Those same games back then are today in Washington, DC, called "political maneuvers."  The US Supreme Court Justice, Oliver W. Holmes, called politicians like Herod "Thick fingered clowns."  So, if Jesus died due to sedition it was because Jesus appeared to the current royal line that soon the Jewish people would chose Jesus instead of Herod Antipas. 
 
If the history of Rome, the Jews, and logic are all used together then the conclusion by Pagels' is wrong, which was that Jesus was executed due to His sedition against Rome. 
 
We see how Pilate, who honored his wife,  has been misunderstood for quite a long time, and I also defer to facts, and logic to exonerate Peter, myself today, from his character being wrongly judged as well, now for nearly 2000 years, in certain circles of academia. It should seem that those who disdain others, and who also appear to believe in reincarnation might consider the idea that the person they disrespect, and publish slanderous reports on their character might be alive again, and not pleased with the one sided report.  
 
Besides, as this website will prove, it was found that around the year 640 AD, when Mohammed the Prophet looked into Hell that he found for every one man in Hell there were about eight women in Hell.  In the year 1870 AD the same ratio persisted, so it can be deduced that Peter is not the misogynist, but rather women who accuse him of that trait are the haters instead.  We can be sure that ever since women's liberation that the ratio is likely one man in hell for every 20 women in hell, and the ratio is only getting worse with each passing year.  I rely upon a simple mathematical relationship where the more freedoms are allowed a woman to be involved in then the greater the chances are to make mistakes that will result in entering Hell. 
 
What is said in this site concerning women does not apply to them all.  As stated elsewhere in my site, I have written that a council of highly educated, and wise women, proving to have a high IQ, along with their having spiritual sight should be the ones to pick the US President.  If I believe in rebirth, or reincarnation, then I also believe that there are souls powerful enough that can execute great judgment when in the body of a woman.     
 
Please excuse my frustration concerning how others look at me. Returning back to Pilate.  It was for the above reason that Jesus would overthrow the line of Herod, that Pilate became friends with Herod Antipas on the day that Pilate sent Jesus to be judged by Herod.  Pilate, who  obeyed his wife not to get involved with Jesus beyond what Herod wished, would end the possibility of Jesus becoming the new King. The Jewish priesthood who were for Herod, would be allowed their wish to kill Jesus. So long as the Priesthood first asks for permission by those the Romans put in authority, such as Herod, to execute a person, then if granted they can kill the person.
 
With all of the above now presented this otherwise odd passage can be easily understood: Luke 23:11-12 "Then Herod, with his men of war, treated Him (Jesus)  with contempt and mocked Him, arrayed Him in a gorgeous robe, and sent Him back to Pilate.  That very day Pilate and Herod became friends with each other, for before that they had been at enmity with each other." 
 
Pilate finally had fallen by luck into a postion that could make Herod happy.  Pilate would then play games with the priests, continuing to make Jesus a King, knowing his offerings would never be accepted.  Pilate would leave the fate of Jesus in the hands of the Jewish priests, which would accomplish what his wife asked:  to have nothing to do with him. 
 
 Earlier, fearing his wife, while Pilate was at the Judgment seat, he was prodded to ask more questions of Jesus, which lead to finding that Jurisdiction was with Herod.  So in the end Pilate pleased his wife, and the final outcome would please Herod too.     
 
Nearly every Pope, and therefore the Catholic church has for over a thousand years condemned poor Pilate for merely following the orders of his wife: Have nothing to do with Him.  I submit further proof of Pilate's good conduct by the following evidence:  Matthew 27:23-24 "Then the governor said, "Why, what evil has He done?'' But they cried out all the more, saying, "Let Him be crucified!'' When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, "I am innocent of the blood of this just Person. You see to it.''  
 
When properly investigated, Pilate is merely playing along with Herod, and at the same time publicly appeasing the wishes of his wife when he washes his hands of the blood of Jesus: "I am innocent of the blood of this just Person. You see to it.''  
 
  We now know that Pilate said that for his wife, but on the surface he appears to have said it for the sake of the crowd. Historic sources already investigated earlier showed that Pilate never once cared what the Jews wished, and not once was he fearful of a tumult due to the priests, and their followers, instead he was fearful of a tumult that may involve him once more with Jesus, which action would bring him at odds with the desire of his wife.  As we can clearly see, Pilate proved to be a family man. 
 
Maybe for some readers the obvious needs to be made even more obvious.  Pilate's wife was the reason that Jesus was not freed, and was sent off to be so called crucified.  If Pilate was left alone, not having his weakness used against him, then Pilate would likely enjoy releasing Jesus, even protecting him with a small group of Roman soldiers so that the priests knew where they stood if they tried other means to kill Jesus.  The wishes of Pilate's wife helped to make Herod to be both of their friend.   
 
   Since Catholics do not wish women to appear to be equal to men that may explain part of their reason for not wishing to find the truth on Pilate's motives.  In this example women are seen to be superior to men, that is, they are the true power behind what goes on in the world.  But now that we know there are deeper reasons for the guile in the NT, then we should see why  women were not back then treated as equals, nor are most today ready to be treated as equals, for to do so will only lead to more of them going to Hell.  So, the Catholic church should be commended for their many ideas that women consider backward.  After all, fire destroys fire, and so until a more enlightened woman appears on the scene where the results can be corroborated in Hell, then the old ways are best. 
 
The Koran, along with the works of Max Heindel, who was the reborn apostle Paul (where the Koran proves his many strange ideas are correct) and that along with the many scientifically validated ideas learned recently, should be applied to how women should be treated today. The results of such a treatment of women will be like is found in most modern western worlds of what constitutes a modest modern woman.  Returning back to the trial of Jesus.

So all was now "legal," and the verses in John 11:47-48, soon to be quoted can be understood properly. As already said before, Pagels, and other scholars wrongly conclude that Jesus was usurping Roman rule, wishing to be the next Caesar, but he was not, instead he was about to destroy the Herodian line, and those who upheld him. 
 
 Here is the quote which makes for more guile, making Jesus appear to be a trouble maker to all of Israel, but now we know that if he had been claimed King instead, then Israel would have been saved.  John 11:47-48 "Then the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered a council and said, "What shall we do? For this Man works many signs. If we let Him alone like this, everyone will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and nation.'' " 
 
Excuse me for making what to some is by now already very obvious, to now become boring by an explanation of the obvious.  We see that from the perspective of the Jewish priests that to only them, so long as it is under their control, and  using their traditions, does it make for their nation, so if Rome did make Jesus King, he would then take their place, and nation away, after Jesus kicked out the old priesthood.  The common Jews, if they had been able to have Jesus use his traditions, and install his priesthood, then in either case, Jesus, or the old vanguard, the common Jews would still have their nation.      

I hope the reader shares with me the humor found in the NT, when once the correct perspective is seen then many times the gospel stories tell what is considered more like a farce, than the serious story we have all been lead to believe.  Continue reading, and every so often more of these absurd, and at times  even humorous NT stories will be understood.   

There is one general idea held by scholar, and common man alike in religion that presents a problem: that general principles in religion do not exist to correct faulty reasoning;  proving that whereas in science, and  math there are basic principles which if violated, then  one knows not to accept the conclusions, but in religion no one can do the same.  It is not that general principles in religion do not exist to correct faulty reasoning, rather it is that no one has collected the principles, and stated the obvious.  No religious assembly has ever been convened to establish general, obvious principles that are simply laying about in the Bible, which if violated will show a person is in error.

One idea is introduced here, that is a little out of the flow, but it is so important that it must be told. This point has been made before.  Mohammed made a final speech, to be discussed again further on, where he said that "today I have perfected your religion for you."  Since the Qur'an, and the prophet Mohammed are prophesied by both the OT, and NT, then Mohammed bringing the Qur'an ended the succession of prophets who would bring holy scriptures, but it did not end the succession of prophets who would be teachers, and warners. Muslims have concluded incorrectly that the Qur'an, hadiths, and other ideas to later be discussed, which together make for Islam is the only final religion to be followed, but clearly that is not so, not as they see it.

The Muftis today, and for the past several hundred years have changed the interpretation of the Koran to be what they define is the proper view, and have added many traditions so they have become like the Jews that wanted Jesus murdered.  They have also become like the Catholic Church as regards Christianity. With that idea entered, then we continue learning how to correct faulty reasoning.

Some may say the Catholic Church has done such a collection of basic principles, but if that were true, then the scientific community would have written papers saying that the Pope had indeed followed scientific methods, and established the NT upon verifiable laws, that science accepts.  However, if one will search about, they will find that not one scientific paper has ever been written, accepted by the scientific community,  saying that day has happened. 

As a result of the lack of general guiding principles, there are a melee of books on the market that can lead the reader in any direction.  The author can claim their book leads to an inner spiritual transformation, such as stated by Elaine Pagels concerning the Gospel of Thomas, when instead her book may do no different than a common Baptist minister, who quotes one little snippet out of the NT, John 3:16 and lays their life’s blood, and soul upon that.  The Baptist minister can, and likely is many times leading his congregation to hell, and so is Pagels. 
 
For example, the counter to John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life,"  though it is a little longer is Matthew 7:19-24. "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Not everyone who says to Me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, `Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock." 
 
The rock that Jesus is referring to can be looked at literally, where that rock is Peter, upon which Jesus said he would build his church, Matthew 16:18, or it can be looked at metaphorically, such as explained in this website, where the rock, or rocks are basic principles of religious truth found in the Bible, and Koran that parallel mathematical axioms, laws, and corollaries.
 
Only read a little beyond John 3:16, and the reader can see where is repeated, in different words, a similar version of Matthew 7:19-24.  The NT must be treated in the manner of a scientific text book on religion, just like it were a text book on Chemistry, Biology, Physics, or Mathematics.  As we all know, the Bible is treated with contempt when it is compared to those latter books.  The Bible is treated as if it were rubbish, even radiological waste, by comparison. 
 
  It is not the Bible that should be treated with contempt, but instead the Catholic, Greek Orthodox, also the Episcopalian, and all the other Protestant churches, including even Oral Roberts University, that should be considered having failed.  They are the ones who should have convened the obvious standards to bring the Bible up to par with all other scientific books taught in Public schools. 
 
Some of the above churches may say that if they had carried out that plan as I contend should have been done, then when Peter was reborn, he would have nothing much left to do.  He could not be ignored, or suffer much like he has been now for about 14 years, ever since God first told him to "Save the World."  They would say that Peter must accept his own books written under the direction of the Holy Spirit, 1 Peter 3:17, and after having done so, he should please: shut up. 
 
I would counter that if those various churches had made the proper study, then prophecy would have been written differently to reflect that change.  If the change had been made long ago I would have probably become clairvoyant in this life at an early age.  I could have easily spoken several languages, and have a few PhDs by this time in my life.  My life would be happy most of the time.  As for the world it would not have regional wars as we see today.  Poverty would be abolished, and so would many other problems we face today not exist, like energy, just to name one.     
 
Here is one of many examples, which shows Pagels violates basic principles that can easily be established by a scientific community, which principles can be  found in the Bible, and Koran, but are as yet not accepted.  Pagels says, page 74,  that "While Thomas says that finding the kingdom of God requires undergoing a solitary process of self-discovery, the gospels of the New Testament offer a far simpler message: one attains to God not by spiritual self-knowledge, but by believing in Jesus the Messiah.  Now that God has sent salvation through Christ, repent; accept baptism, and forgiveness of sins; join God’s people, and receive salvation. "   That quote will be discussed further below. 
 
Earlier Pagels wrote some comments on a quote from the Gospel of Thomas:   " "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate: for all things are manifest in the sight of heaven"  (NHC II.3318-21).
This enigmatic answer leaves each person to his or her own conscience; for who else knows when one is lying, and who else knows what one hates? Profound as such an answer may be it offers no programmatic guidelines for group instructions, much less for the formation of  a religious institution. " 
 
The above quote from Pagels book is easily proven incorrect by a quote from the apostle Paul, and from the gospels, where Jesus is shown to know what others are thinking.  First on Jesus:  Matthew 9:4  " But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, "Why do you think evil in your hearts? "  "
 
 Next Paul explains that for those who are mature, not babes like the common Christian, that they can do what Jesus does, 1 Corinthians 2:10 - 16 " But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.  For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.  These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.   For "Who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?'' But we have the mind of Christ. "
 
Only one verse later Paul states that he can not teach the wisdom of those who have the mind of Christ, instead he must teach only elementary things, like giving milk to babies: 1 Cor 3:1-2  "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;"
 
As will be found in the link “Creating Myths from Guile”  the point at 1 Corinthians 3:1 is where the NT transitions from mature teachings into the teaching for babes.  The NT weaves in, and out of mature teachings back into babes teachings, then into mature, and so on.  The point where it happens is easily found, and those " Doors"  can be scientifically proven to be where the transitions occur.  Pagels mentions only the milk version above, where she states:  " Now that God has sent salvation through Christ, repent; accept baptism, and forgiveness of sins; join God’s people, and receive salvation. "   The point that is made for now, is that unless axioms, laws, and corollaries are established, so that anyone violating them can be easily dismissed, then nonsense, and wars such as found in the world today will never end. 
 
  It is fact that Elaine Pagels was married to a theoretical physicist, who died a few years after their marriage.  His early demise may be due to a mental breakdown caused by his repeately being called a misogynist by his wife.  That previous sentence is not an established fact right now, but may be one proven true over a great span of time.  I leave her to defend herself on what is the truth.  Since she is still alive, I prove to be one who allows the other side an opportunity to make a defense.     
 
Most of the modern discoveries found in science today would not have been seen unless the scientific method had been first established.  Peace in the world will not be achieved until the basic underlying rock, or principles of religion are established. 
There are more men in religion than women, and so men are far more at fault than are women in failing to convene an assembly to establish the principles upon which the foundation of religion must stand.  Currently, sand is the foundation. 
 
 What I state can be done here is not hard to do.   Take any eminent Physicist, Chemist, Mathematician, and so on in the hard sciences, and assign them to that task.  In fact, take any graduate with a Masters degree in those fields, whose name has never been heard by the general public,   and they can do the same.  In this web site I will do what they could more easily do. 
 
Excuse my flow of excuses below for why I will not get around to completing a paper that uses principles found in the Bible, and Koran where by logic they can be tied into a type of mathematical theory.  That theory would be used to defend, or defeat anyone who makes statements from the Holy Scriptures, where they say, or imply: come follow Me.    
 
Most of those in science are not a sensitive, whose aura can be entered by one who is envious of them, bringing their IQ down from 150, or higher  to only be about 100.  (That is one reason I am looking for a job in trucking, because I could be away from my home, where my brother projects himself into me, so  he destroys my reasoning ability. If he does not know where I live, he is not able to send thoughts forms to me, or to enter my aura.  My brother has maybe a 102 IQ.  He is envious, and wants to look better than me.  He wanted to be a minister when he was young. So he is like one of the Jewish priest that hated Jesus, but now hates me.  I never considered being a minister even once.  Over the road trucking allows one to come home for about four or five days a month.  In the mean time I could figure out my plan as I drive, and write parts of it down every night. ) On another problem, not the same as before:  Most of those people, scientists, and engineers, are not possessed by a demon, from one who hates them, like happened to Paul, 2 Cor 12:7-9, which today is upon me.  On another problem:  Most of those have not been arrested, and drugged so their intellect is further diminished, even if nothing else were to be interfering with their thinking.  On another problem:  Most of those do not have police knocking on their door, (four times now in 13 years, and once they did arrest me, for no good reason. ) threatening to arrest them, due to the lies told by those in power, who are associated with the Catholic Church. On another problem:  I have a son now in college, so there are many expenses, such as a car.  I have another, a daughter, soon to be in college.  Paul did not have family obligations. 
 
Today is the year 2007.  I drive a 1995 Ford Aspire, and I do all the mechanical repairs myself.  (Since many average cars are getting smaller today, and my car looks almost new, it can be  mistaken for a 2007 model car.)  I should have enough money so I can continue working at home on this web site, but soon I must find employment outside of the home to provide for my children’s college expenses.  I do not wish them to have grades of C, because they had to spend thirty, or forty hours working a week, plus try, and attend college.  There are many other problems I could list on, that many in the scientific community do not have to endure.  I should have people donate me some money, so that I may continue working on this web site, but instead I will have little time for it, as soon I must be available for other work. (I edited this site again 21 October, 2008.  If anyone had seen this earlier, they would wonder what at times I was saying. ) 
 
 Still, though I should be excused from having to continue on my own, much less even find outside employment, I will try some day to show several principles that I am confident will be accepted by the scientific community.  
 
I am working on those principles right now, but have only shown a very flimsy beginning elsewhere in this site.  Hopefully by May of 2008,  I will have the basics done. That time is past, still nothing done yet.   For now, the simple idea that lies, Romans 3:4, are not part of the truth, 1 John 2:4, is a good start if anyone wishes to have some reason why they should make an investigation into building the Word of God in the Bible upon rock.  I am not saying the NT is a lie, rather that by telling a lie in certain places, Romans 3:4, and then proving it is a lie, 1 John 2:4, we can establish that the NT is written in places for babes, who can only receive milk, ( comparable to the teaching of Santa Claus)  and in other areas is taught the truth, like the Kingdom of God is within each person, so that we are all a son of God, ( " The Son of God"  is a metaphor) if one will establish that kingdom within. When the kingdom of God is established within, Luke 17:21, then we have become like Christ.  
 
 Whatever, sorry about the lame work on a proof.  Back to Pagels and other Professors of religion whose ideas can easily be proven wrong.     
 
Many professors such as Pagels, including another professor we are soon to look at, named Bart Ehrman, are leading students of divinity to consider several of the Gnostic texts to be as valid as the NT. The NT has valid Gnosticism within it pages, whereas that found out side of it, in other ancient texts, is typically invalid, and more so, the Gnostic teachings within the NT are based upon scientific principles, whereas those outside are not.  
 
 

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Man tries to send flowers to Fort Hood shooter, calls him a "hero"

U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding 29 more at Fort Hood military base last week.

Dan M. Ross, 61. of Lehigh Acres, was just trying to follow the New Testament and love his enemies.

So Ross sent an e-mail to Marvel’s Florist in Killeen, Texas, ordering a $59.95 yellow rose bouquet for Hasan.

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He ordered a note be included with the flowers reading: “Major Nidal Hasan. Koran 2: 190 - 3. In God’s eye, and those who submit, you are a hero!”

Guess that got your attention -- and the FBI's.

Ross instructing the flower shop employees to “play stupid” if anyone were to question them.

The owner of the flower shop found the email "disturbing" and hand delivered it to the FBI.

Ross, who claims to be “the reincarnated Apostle Peter” and “the coming son of man,” said he doesn’t condone the Fort Hood shootings. He believes Hasan has a limited understanding of the Scriptures of God.

“God would take that into consideration and say ‘You did the best you can with what you knew,’” Ross said, reports the Naples Daily News.

The FBI came to his door.

Ross emailed the flower shop directed them to his Web site, www.donutnous.com, and said they did not respect his “US Constitutional rights.” Ross told them after reading it if they look in the mirror, they will know who the enemy is: “It is yourself.”

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Lehigh Acres resident Dan M. Ross is interviewed by an NBC-2 reporter in this still image provided by the TV station.

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Nut cases transcend all racial and religious boundaries I guess.

Ignorant SOB and religious pshchotic. send him over to the sandsox to be a "Missionary". They have all kinds of respect for your "U.S. Constitutional Rights"

Mr. Ross you should be so proud of yourself for being such an idiot. Where do these people come from?????

Must be the Florida school system...

Maybe its time the IRS scrutize this idiots tax records for the last 20-30 years. Sounds like he doesn't like our military probably was kicked out.

Common loons migrate south in the winter. I guess this guy never left. Wow.

Send him to live with these types in the Middle East if he is so sympathetic to them. . Im sure they would welcome his head in their open arms ..

this guy should be horse whipped!

God only has one eye? We've been worshiping a big cyclops

With a head shaped like an eggplant, what do you expect?

They should take this fruitcake and send him to Iraq...He's a disgrace to this country...

Where do these people come from?????

america,
happy vetenarians day .....

cukoo

Well it's obvious that this guy is crazy. Let's not blame it on anything but that. I'm sure there are some more loons out there just like him. So don't get so bent out of shape on what he said or whether or not he's religious. The guy has lost his marbles. He lives in a retirement community so what can you expect?

Dr. Hasan would have been thrilled to have a re-incarnated St. Peter as his admirer. Although I am not sure what Muslims think about St. Peter. They consider Jesus a minor prophet but what about the saints?

We will never know, the roses were apparently not dlivered. Dr. Hasan is, of course, not crazy at all although he may use insanity as his defense. He will certainly know how to present plenty of psychotic signs...

The head of this guy is truly remarkable, as other write here, one should expect something special from folks with head like that...

He looks like a reject from the Outer Limits.

Nutcases also seem to come together and egg each other on which is a very bad thing as it glamorizes and promotes these ridiculous events, the less publicity the better I think in this case.

I am Dan Ross, the same in this news article. Ever since in 1996 I proved the Government is segregating the news, such as when Mitsubishi Motors, with 300 women abused, and then Texaco with eight blacks, the IRS has audited my tax records every year. They broke the law, I did not. Such reports should have come every year, it happens all the time but only when I sued the EEOC did it come out, and the news made a cover-up story. By many miracles, not just that stated here, I prove to be the reborn apostle Peter: Qur'an 5:33.

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